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hey guys ryan sprague here a little

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this was a virtual panel i took part in

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over at the weird ufo show on youtube

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ceo deep prasad so be sure to go over to

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youtube channel and check out all of the

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so the main event of the night was a

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jane youtube channel as well

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everybody here is doing this for free

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everybody who has participated in the

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that'll help he's knocking

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there he is okay guys sorry about that

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let's do this all right no no no i want

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bob lazar ufos and flying saucers that

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set up this whole day of ufos ryan great

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we're all fans of your work and and dave

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everybody for joining we got a nice

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nice crowd here so all right so how are

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rumors wait and maybe others do way way

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of there being some kind of ufo and

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what a priority truly is in their lives

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what they

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value the most these things that not

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only

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show us that boundaries are completely

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false that maps are just something that

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we've created that we are as

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dave and i were talking about earlier

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today completely interconnected you know

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sad way to figure that out but we are

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connected to the planet we're connected

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to each other

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and all the boundaries we've created are

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completely fictitious

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you know this is something that i think

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will inspire a lot of understanding

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creativity and like any challenge as we

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go

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through this all together in our own way

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because certainly

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all quarantines are not created equal uh

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you know which is a positive or negative

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thing but it's the reality

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uh the ufo phenomenon it's been with us

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since

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as far as we can tell before the

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beginning of recorded human history but

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for sure

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since the beginning of recorded human

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history so

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this interest that we have we might not

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see it on fox news like we did

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a year ago but i am very confident in

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saying

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that that was just the beginning that

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there's a lot more

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that will be coming into the public

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realm and will

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kind of re-inspire that big

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question and you know the question is

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are we alone

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in the universe second is are they

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coming here

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so that's kind of like look man we gotta

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take care of the wound

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we've got to take care of each other it

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has an opportunity to

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revolutionize the way that we understand

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our connectivity

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and our connection to one another and

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then i think we'll be more

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formidable in our ability to tackle the

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bigger

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questions that's you know just not

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hunting eating sleeping and

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hate something dave and i were talking

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about before but

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we'll be able to look at these topics in

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a different way

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so look man it's not going away been

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here a long time

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and here we are and uncertainty and

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let's kind of see what happens from here

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but i'm very optimistic

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yeah well i should say um the ufo

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lockdown

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i very much feel inspired by you jeremy

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and

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actor comedian jeremy is it would make

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sense that we would cross paths but we

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met at area 51

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a year ago for the very peaceful

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storm area or storm base camp area 51

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base camp

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not the storm area 51 that was infamous

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on facebook and so we got to meet there

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i knew

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ryan from before and that was such an

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awesome

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event and it was you you and other

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people pulled together

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it together so quickly and in a time

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when it was really needed

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and so it definitely feels very similar

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this week so i was really inspired by

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that

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the only difference is i i called dave

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foley and dave we weren't like

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super tight yet or anything but i called

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you said hey man

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jump in a car get to the desert i got a

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dwelling for you

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it's by air if you want people thinking

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they're gonna storm it it's gonna be

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awesome man

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it's gonna be awesome and and you did

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you

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misconceptions about storm air 51

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we were there we were there for the main

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event what do you think about it was

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beautiful i mean it was a wonderful

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event i mean it wasn't

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the the insane uh event that some people

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were

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guess but it was just a wonderful like

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uh incredibly sort of peaceful um

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interesting gathering of people just in

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the desert

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you know enjoying music and and and

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enjoying

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talking about uh ufo phenomena and

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um you know and just being out there was

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you know just

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was a really wonderful experience and uh

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yeah

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i put extra cushy pillows in there so

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like as a comedian i'm just curious i

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mean i want you to repent

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but as a comedian can you tell me like

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what weaponry

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the the comedy has served in the form of

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dismissing the ufo topic and then why

404
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you've decided to talk about it in a

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more

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serious light well that's the thing i

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like you know for me i realized that my

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my people my my sub sub

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uh subphylum i guess we call it of the

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the human species comedians

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has done an awful lot to contribute to

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the

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have experienced it

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you know this you know you can pretty

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much go through and and

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look at any huge ufo event over the last

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40 50 60 years and

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tune in whatever comedian was speaking

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at the time and find them making jokes

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about it

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and always dismissing it and it's always

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you know you know

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depicting ufo experiencers as lunatics

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and um you know and and just tapping

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into

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the the most absurd

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description of the phenomenon that was

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fed to us by uh

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the government and feeding it back to

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people and making it impossible for

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people to come forward because they're

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terrified of being ridiculed by people

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like me

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so uh you know so comedians have had a

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lot to do with the uh

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suppression of the real data uh over the

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last 70 years

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and i feel like as a comedian i kind of

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want to point that out to people

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especially people who do comedy like i

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do and so to get them to think about it

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in a little more clever

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and and knowledgeable way and maybe just

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stop

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tools dave

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yes yeah but i can only i can only

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tackle one stopping being one particular

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kind of tool at a time

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that's a good point because i mean don't

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don't put it on yourself dave i mean

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it's ev

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it's in every industry and field is even

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within

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the ufology field you have people that

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give it a bad name what about you

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right what do you think so there's like

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we we have a lot of comedians to give

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comedy a bad name too

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do you get any do you see any do you see

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any of the ufo do you participate in the

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ufo twitter at all dave i was gonna

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i know that ryan knows that hashtag but

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um yeah i mean there's a lot of ufo

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debate

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in chat so like where does every i'm

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assuming that we're all

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appreciative of to the stars academy

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yeah and

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and what has been accomplished there but

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there's a lot of people

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who are very skeptical of it

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no where do you guys people coming from

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any group of people at all

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that get involved in any uh endeavor

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uh have a tremendous capacity for uh

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really dumb backbiting uh you know

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and i think so that's any group any

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group that gathers anywhere there's

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always gonna be some people that are

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just going to

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embarrass you and attack each other for

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no good reason

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and and and just sort of set everybody

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back uh and that

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that definitely seems to be the case in

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the ufo community that there are a lot

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of people who are just very uh

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non-constructive i guess and territorial

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and uh and i think i usually usually

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sort of feel like

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any endeavor when you get really

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territorial about things

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and it's all about uh this new bit of

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information is undermining the thing

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i've been putting forward so i'd better

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attack that new bit of information

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you know as opposed to getting excited

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about anything you know like i always

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said you

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you know the only arguments worth having

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are the ones you lose

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oh that's you know yeah so uh you know

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you never you never you never learn

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anything from winning an argument

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um so uh so i'm you know

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and when i whenever i find out i was

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wrong about something i find it kind of

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exciting and i think that's something

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that should be applied to any any field

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i'd like to educate too i agree with

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dave i think um

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you know the word constructive is

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extremely important

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we need skeptics in this field this

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quote-unquote field

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we need them like it's necessary and i

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i'm sure all four of us

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five of us excuse me i was not included

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myself and six

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i see the alien in the background there

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um

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uh we all are skeptic to some degree

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um but when when dave says it comes to

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attacking and

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straight up straight up debunking um

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immediately without even asking someone

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i mean i see jeremy deal with this

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on a freaking daily basis of people

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coming at him

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talking about bob lazar and they say the

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same

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damn like five words every time without

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even looking at it

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if you go back and look at any news uh

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you know segment about ufos where

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there's a believer

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or someone you know a proponent of the

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ufo phenomenon and a skeptic

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they don't even know what case they're

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on there to talk about

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they just know exactly what they're

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gonna say it was venus

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it was this and they don't even put the

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legwork in so

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i think that applies to twitter too i

546
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think there's a lot of um

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people on twitter who are just there to

548
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um only amplify that tribalism

549
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but uh end of the day i mean i love

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talking to everyone on

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uh ufo twitter it's it's fun it's

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entertaining

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um but you gotta remain you know yeah

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you gotta remain respectful

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i'm not sure if i've delved into you to

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ufo twitter

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you have to it's basically twitter

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anything you talk about ufos

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yeah i mean i follow all of you guys you

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know

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me make a comment here

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so about twitter and about our ability

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to communicate

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about ufos and about skepticism dave

565
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foley has actually said some things to

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me that were very powerful about this

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00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,039
you know there's he has an analogy that

568
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:35,039
maybe you'll share with us about occam's

569
00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:35,679
razor

570
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,799
after i say this but you know the basic

571
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:40,320
thing is

572
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:43,840
skepticism is one thing right the idea

573
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,320
that you

574
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:47,039
critically look at something to try to

575
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,320
determine

576
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:50,720
if there's weight or validity to it

577
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:53,280
because none of us want to look a fool

578
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:56,559
none of us want to be wrong

579
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,799
however i think that's a huge mistake as

580
00:21:02,549 --> 00:20:59,919
you said earlier

581
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:02,559
jane or i think it was you you know it's

582
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,280
through

583
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:05,600
loss like when i was a mixed martial

584
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:06,559
athlete

585
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,240
when i was doing that it was always the

586
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,240
losses that taught me

587
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,320
how to better resolve for the you know

588
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,080
future problems

589
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,080
jiu jitsu is like problems you're

590
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,000
solving them as you go

591
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:20,480
so this idea of communication with

592
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:21,120
twitter

593
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:24,559
and ufology and skepticism yeah every

594
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,159
day i deal with this

595
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,320
you know i people ask the same questions

596
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:30,320
over and over and the questions the

597
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:31,039
tones are

598
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:34,159
loaded with preconception i've

599
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:35,280
completely

600
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:39,200
ignore i block delete don't read

601
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:42,480
hatred uh venom that kind of thing it's

602
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:43,039
too much

603
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:44,720
coming in my life has changed greatly

604
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:47,679
since my movies it's too much coming in

605
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:50,960
so there are pressure points we can push

606
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,080
those that are interested in finding out

607
00:21:57,630 --> 00:21:56,720
if the ufo topic has enough merit

608
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:57,640
scientifically

609
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:01,039
sociologically and personally to

610
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:04,559
to give it value to give it time

611
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:07,360
those are the people that it's you're

612
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:08,159
required

613
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,000
to answer them i do believe that i

614
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,320
believe it is our duty and our job to be

615
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:14,480
honest and straightforward and answer

616
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,919
but when the conversation devolves into

617
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:20,000
a point and a perspective where people

618
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,600
are just trying to

619
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,000
prove their own standpoint it's a waste

620
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:26,320
of space a waste of breath

621
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,520
so my tactic is drop it and

622
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,159
leave it but then jump in later and

623
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:34,080
people that are really interested

624
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,840
i'm going to go through it now the

625
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:37,520
number one problem i have

626
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:40,480
with you know social media and the ufo

627
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:41,520
topic

628
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:44,720
is people wanting everything now

629
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:47,919
and wanting it the easy way if i tell

630
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,240
you my opinion on something

631
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,480
you're not going to be swayed you're

632
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:54,240
going to be able to drop that opinion

633
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:54,799
later

634
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:57,120
if it wasn't formed and forged through

635
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,400
the fire of your

636
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,440
own desire and your own look at stuff so

637
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:03,280
you need to investigate a lot of the

638
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:04,400
questions i get are things that are

639
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,919
already answered the same things that

640
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:07,440
have been answered for 30 years

641
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:11,440
like about bob lazar however

642
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,240
the concept that we can communicate as

643
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,400
long as nobody says something mean or

644
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:18,559
terrible you know let's talk about it

645
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,520
but if it's something that's been

646
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:20,720
answered before

647
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,840
i'm going to say go do the work

648
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,400
go look into it go build your own

649
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:28,240
personal akashic record

650
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:31,360
of information form your own opinion

651
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,919
now dave foley had a very interesting

652
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,559
point

653
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,720
that he told me about occam's razor so

654
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,799
not to get into specifics with lazar or

655
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:39,919
whatever but

656
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,559
just yeah the basic concept you've told

657
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:43,919
me dave can you

658
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:46,640
tell us it's basically my reaction to

659
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:48,840
people like michael shermer

660
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,600
who you know the you know and the notion

661
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:53,279
that they'll apply outcomes rays are

662
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,039
uh in in in inaccurately

663
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,960
because occam's razor doesn't say that

664
00:24:01,590 --> 00:24:00,640
the most boring answer is correct it

665
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:01,600
says that the

666
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,360
the simplest answer is correct you know

667
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:07,120
but they've taken that to be just them

668
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:08,720
whatever is the most banal answer that's

669
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,760
when you're going to have to

670
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,159
accept even if it is you have to jump

671
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,240
through multiple loops

672
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:16,080
to accept it like michael shermer saying

673
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:17,520
the tic tac video

674
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:21,440
was a product of uh exhaustion on the

675
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:24,799
part of the pilots uh equipment error

676
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:29,120
on the on the uh onboard uh

677
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:32,559
radar and infrared cameras combined with

678
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:33,840
equipment error

679
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,200
in the radar rooms of you know of the uh

680
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:40,640
the ships below uh combined with

681
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,240
uh errors in perception

682
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:46,720
by the trained pilots in two jets well

683
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,679
three jets actually

684
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,720
if you count the one that we haven't

685
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:51,600
actually did so you have to accept

686
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,120
that uh a trained pilot couldn't tell

687
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:57,039
the difference between the exhaust

688
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:00,880
flare of another uh jet

689
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:03,360
and uh the tic tac that he clearly

690
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,480
observed

691
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,559
and you have to accept that at the exact

692
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:08,240
same time

693
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:11,520
the uh the radar the most advanced radar

694
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:12,480
in the world

695
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:15,840
uh got a false reading on a craft that

696
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:17,360
exactly matched the movements of the

697
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,400
craft that

698
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:21,120
uh david fravor was observing so you

699
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,760
have to believe

700
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,840
all of these things happened and and

701
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:25,360
that he was exhausted

702
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:28,159
and hallucinating uh in order and this

703
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,400
is

704
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,960
also coming from people who've never

705
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:31,760
spoken

706
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,480
with commander fraber and this is coming

707
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:36,000
from yeah and that that to me is the

708
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,400
most

709
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,360
annoying because you know my whole

710
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,960
investigation began

711
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,720
going into the nimitz encounters waiting

712
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:44,559
for it was ever known yeah and speaking

713
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:45,039
with people

714
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:48,000
directly and with occam's razor the

715
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:49,919
simplest explanation for what happened

716
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:53,600
is he saw exactly what he described

717
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:56,480
right that doesn't say what it is that

718
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,279
he saw

719
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:58,880
doesn't say how it flies doesn't say

720
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:01,120
where it's from but occam's razor says

721
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:03,039
the simplest explanation for what

722
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,559
happened that day

723
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,559
is everybody saw exactly what they

724
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,000
described yep

725
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,400
yeah dave i mean if even one of those

726
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,640
things michael shermer said is true

727
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,640
those people should not be in the navy i

728
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,679
mean straight up

729
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,760
no those aren't the people we want

730
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,000
defending our exactly our national

731
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,760
security give me a break

732
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,600
no and it's also this is a guy and they

733
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:25,279
said it was the stress the performance

734
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:25,840
dress

735
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,640
david framer he's a top gun pilot he's

736
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:30,559
not going to flip out during a training

737
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:31,440
mission

738
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,720
no no yeah good point let me uh

739
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:37,120
add a little bit commander fraber at the

740
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:38,000
time was

741
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,039
head of the black aces commander fravor

742
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,120
had more flight time than anybody and it

743
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:45,039
wasn't just commander fravor

744
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,080
that saw the tic tac there were many

745
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,159
eyes a few planes up there

746
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:52,480
yeah but he was the one that engaged it

747
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:54,000
he was the one that actually

748
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:57,440
chased it so yeah these types of

749
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:00,960
um i don't know detached

750
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,240
viewpoints obviously they have an

751
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:07,279
agenda you know a psychological agenda

752
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,760
in trying to dismiss something where the

753
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,039
weight is so

754
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:13,120
powerful now i love when the bunkers

755
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,240
come out and say

756
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,200
uh by the way uh trained top gun pilots

757
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,039
are no better observers than the average

758
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,590
you don't understand they're better yet

759
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:25,360
they are yeah

760
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,399
yeah they are and additionally uh

761
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:30,880
hopefully i'll reveal a lot more of this

762
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:31,440
you know

763
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,640
there's there were a lot of things going

764
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,159
on at that time

765
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:39,120
there were a lot of systems that we have

766
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:39,679
that we're

767
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,840
so we're not just talking about

768
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:45,520
eyewitness that's what makes

769
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,640
the nimitz encounters a great case

770
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,880
is we're talking about technologies

771
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,240
individuals

772
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:54,399
i will say although it's a very unpop

773
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:55,840
i'm going to be killed on ufo twitter

774
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,880
for this

775
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,480
there are a lot of bullshitters out

776
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,559
there there's a lot of people

777
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,399
that and you can read it in two seconds

778
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:04,159
they're like whining children there's

779
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,600
people that come out

780
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,760
and they're trying to make a buck off of

781
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,440
what's been going on

782
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,440
now i'll tell you the people i've

783
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:13,360
interviewed people i talked with

784
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:16,320
they were resistant to going out

785
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,279
publicly

786
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,000
they weren't jumping up on podiums and

787
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,840
trying to make a dollar off of it

788
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:23,279
so people say why didn't you interview

789
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:24,480
this person why didn't you interview

790
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,120
that person

791
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,440
people don't know who i interviewed i

792
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:29,360
haven't released everything

793
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,120
the people that are most interesting to

794
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:33,760
me are the people that don't have a dog

795
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:34,799
in the fight

796
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:37,039
the people that are resistant to being

797
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,399
known publicly

798
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,120
this is a seminal case for the ufo topic

799
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:42,960
because it's current

800
00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:46,240
and it implies a lot uh it implies a lot

801
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:46,520
of

802
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:49,760
understanding on a government level

803
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:52,799
and a military level of an increased

804
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:56,080
frequency of unknown vehicles of unknown

805
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,880
origin

806
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,720
of high technology that outpace

807
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,080
outmaneuver and

808
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,640
shut down some of our most complex

809
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:04,960
communications and weapon systems

810
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,919
so this is an important case it's a very

811
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,039
important case

812
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,200
but just to kind of go back to your

813
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,200
point dave

814
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:16,080
uh i think that you know it's in the eye

815
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:17,679
of the beholder in a way

816
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,760
if you've already made up your mind

817
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,600
there's nothing anybody can do

818
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,760
but if you're willing to look at the

819
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,440
evidence and you're willing to

820
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:28,159
really take the time there's a profound

821
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,039
mystery

822
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,679
that we are now being led in on that's

823
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:34,720
been held secret by our government

824
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,760
for more than 70 years i i'd love to ask

825
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:39,360
jeremy your opinion on this since you've

826
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,399
spoken to

827
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:43,200
commander framer um a lot of skeptics

828
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:43,919
are saying

829
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:47,520
this was the air force testing the navy

830
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,240
i mean i i don't know that sounds to me

831
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:51,679
that sounds asinine

832
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:54,799
that they would no no that's verifiably

833
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:57,919
false okay it's verifiably false

834
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,880
on so many levels okay not even not even

835
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:01,679
talking about

836
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,520
the technology and what it can do

837
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,760
and the fact that we don't have this

838
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,360
technology

839
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:12,000
but additionally that's not how things

840
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:12,880
are tested

841
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:16,000
that is dangerous that it that is not

842
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:17,440
something that is even

843
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,120
remotely part of a a reality that can be

844
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,640
considered this is not

845
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,320
one branch of the government with a

846
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:25,760
technology

847
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:28,799
that has been unused in warfare that all

848
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:29,840
of a sudden

849
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:32,960
were testing secretly

850
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:35,360
off the coast of california that's not

851
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:36,080
how it

852
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,159
works period full stop

853
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,960
anybody that says that walk away better

854
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:44,480
use your time

855
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,840
this was an unknown object of extreme

856
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,600
technology that is very clearly

857
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:52,799
manipulating

858
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:57,120
what we know as gravity in order to

859
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,799
maneuver it was able to shut down

860
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,519
our optics and weapon systems on our

861
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:04,960
most advanced

862
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,880
systems as well as our encrypted systems

863
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:11,440
one of the most amazing things about the

864
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,399
the tic tac

865
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,440
incident is the way that it was able to

866
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,279
maneuver to what's called the cap

867
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,039
point which is a later point the command

868
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:21,519
of favor was going to

869
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,919
somehow whether it be temporal

870
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:25,200
distortion

871
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:28,080
or let it be some sort of encryption it

872
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,880
was able to

873
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:31,360
know a future movement that one of our

874
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,000
pilots were

875
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,399
able to do dave foley and i would today

876
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,760
were talking about well

877
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:38,080
what have these advanced technologies

878
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:39,440
that we call ufos

879
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,080
what have they done with our technology

880
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,000
you know what are they capable of

881
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:46,240
you know this is beyond shadow of a

882
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,360
doubt

883
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,840
we know that these technologies can shut

884
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,840
down our nuclear weapons

885
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:54,399
we know that they can manipulate our

886
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:55,600
nuclear weapons

887
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:57,679
this is something that they have shown

888
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:59,200
before this is not me

889
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:02,080
just talking this is a true thing so

890
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:02,480
this

891
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:05,840
concept of a way a hardcore physical

892
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,960
technology interacts with some sort of

893
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:10,480
intelligence that's operating them

894
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,200
whether than be

895
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,279
manned or not manned or people are in

896
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:15,279
them or people are not in them

897
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:17,919
uh this is not something we have this is

898
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:18,480
something

899
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,279
we wish we had one of the greatest

900
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:23,120
moments of my life

901
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,039
was being able to speak with the highest

902
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:27,200
ranking military individual that i have

903
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,080
ever

904
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:30,559
personally been able to speak with one

905
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:31,440
to one

906
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,480
man to man person to person somebody who

907
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:36,320
is in a position to know

908
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:37,919
somebody who is currently in a position

909
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:39,440
to know

910
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,640
and what he said to me is that

911
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:45,120
if we had these technologies we would

912
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:45,919
have had been

913
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:49,279
deploying them we would have been using

914
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:49,919
them

915
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,720
it's so revolutionary we wish we did

916
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,399
have these technologies these things

917
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:56,480
you're calling ufos jeremy

918
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:59,279
we wish we had them we do not have

919
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:00,799
anti-gravity

920
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,519
we do not have the ability to move

921
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:05,919
through space-time as these craft do

922
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:09,360
and undeniably bees

923
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,720
craft are moving through gravity wave

924
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:13,919
amplification

925
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:17,279
this is undeniable our military knows it

926
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,480
our intelligence agencies know this the

927
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:21,679
problem is

928
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,960
is that it's it can be weaponized so

929
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,480
i i would really pay attention to what

930
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,000
bob lazar told you

931
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:30,640
the function of the craft the science of

932
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:31,440
the craft i would

933
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:33,919
pay attention to that that is how these

934
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:34,880
things are moving

935
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:37,760
and the implications of that are so vast

936
00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:38,559
they're so

937
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,720
profound they can instantly

938
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,200
instantaneously

939
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:45,120
change the way that humanity lives on

940
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,320
this earth

941
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:49,039
so anyway dave foley thank you for for

942
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,200
telling us about occam's razor because

943
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:53,120
there's a lot of out there well

944
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,399
i'm curious dave on

945
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:56,559
your take and others do what about the

946
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:58,880
one extraordinary claims require

947
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,039
extraordinary evidence because that's

948
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:03,120
another one because also occam's razor

949
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:04,159
is not i

950
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:05,840
understand it there's not it's not a

951
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:08,159
scientific thing it's just a

952
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:11,839
a saying it's a it's a kind of a

953
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,760
mental yeah it's it's a scientific

954
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,520
version of a of a kitchen plaque that

955
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:17,440
says hang in there baby

956
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:20,159
right uh yeah it's not a scientific

957
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,040
principle

958
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:23,440
and the extraordinary claims thing okay

959
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,320
that's

960
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,359
it's a valid criticism uh but there is

961
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:29,040
extraordinary evidence

962
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:32,560
uh for those extraordinary claims uh but

963
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:36,320
that seems to be there's no requirement

964
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,000
for even vaguely accurate

965
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:43,200
claims to debunk

966
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:44,639
you know it's like anything that can

967
00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:46,399
debunk one element

968
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,359
of a sighting or of an incident is taken

969
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,200
to debunk the entire incident and every

970
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,040
incident vaguely were vaguely

971
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,919
similar to it throughout all of history

972
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:56,560
you know

973
00:35:01,829 --> 00:35:00,560
know claim that sometimes people have

974
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:01,839
mistaken

975
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,400
weather balloons for ufos therefore all

976
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:06,000
ufos are weather balloons

977
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:07,680
that's the way the debunking usually

978
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:10,079
goes and that's not very good

979
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,880
rigor and they're more likely chinese

980
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,079
lanterns

981
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,720
yeah i mean i i like like somebody who's

982
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,640
had kind of a bit of an evolution is uh

983
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:19,760
michokaku

984
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:22,800
um yes yes

985
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,920
because he he had done uh a video i

986
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:27,040
watched him on youtube

987
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,119
that just infuriated me because i think

988
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:31,440
he's such a smart guy

989
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:32,880
but he did a whole thing about the tic

990
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:35,280
tac ufo saying uh it was most likely

991
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:38,960
a russian drone that was able to shut

992
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:39,839
off its end

993
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:43,280
engines and uh fly without it and

994
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,800
glide without engines that's why i

995
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:46,240
didn't that's why i didn't have a heat

996
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,280
signature

997
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,320
and it was able to maneuver right to

998
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,320
left so that's why it was able to make

999
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,359
uh turns and that that is most likely

1000
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,200
what the tic tac ufo was

1001
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:59,040
completely ignoring the fact that

1002
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:00,400
gliding uh

1003
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,320
uh drones a gliding drone is unlikely to

1004
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,440
uh to go from you know 60 feet above sea

1005
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:08,960
level to 60 000 ft

1006
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,040
in a matter of seconds in a straight

1007
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:13,200
line it isn't likely to

1008
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:16,240
uh make right angle turns so it you know

1009
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,560
his

1010
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,480
explanation didn't match any of the

1011
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,680
evidence didn't match

1012
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,560
any of the observed phenomena but he

1013
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:24,640
dismissed the whole thing

1014
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:26,079
does everybody i mean i don't know if

1015
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,760
the audience understands the the

1016
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:28,720
difference between

1017
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:31,920
reactionary propulsion and

1018
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:39,510
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1053
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1054
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1055
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,520
yeah this is this is so important

1056
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,599
and it's based and built upon the

1057
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:11,520
observations of people like commander

1058
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,320
fraber

1059
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:14,400
i do want to talk about that moment when

1060
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:15,839
commander fravor

1061
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,119
uh met with bob lazar and they there's a

1062
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:21,040
photo of it online and we were all in a

1063
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:22,240
room there's george knapp

1064
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,040
matt adams me commander faber and bob

1065
00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:27,040
lazar and they were confirming

1066
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,800
to one another about the technical

1067
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,960
specifications

1068
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,280
required to have these types of

1069
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:35,839
maneuvers witnessed by commander fraber

1070
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:38,000
and then what bob described bob lazar

1071
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,000
described back in 1989

1072
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,480
so let's make this really simple was a

1073
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:43,839
learning curve for

1074
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:47,040
me but i find it to be a pivotal aspect

1075
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,720
of our understanding of how these craft

1076
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,400
work which is a small portion of the

1077
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,280
phenomenon is the ufos themselves

1078
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,000
so a reactionary craft a reactionary

1079
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,440
propulsion system

1080
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:59,280
is like everything you see you push

1081
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,560
something out the back

1082
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:03,119
you move forward so this is you know

1083
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,320
trains

1084
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,880
cars combustion engines this is a very

1085
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:08,160
basic principle

1086
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,079
of known physics we don't know

1087
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,640
all of physics we are discovering stuff

1088
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,599
every day

1089
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:17,440
anybody that says well physics proves or

1090
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:18,800
disproves this

1091
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:22,640
get a grip we are young as a specie

1092
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:25,680
okay so reactionary propulsion is the

1093
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,400
idea

1094
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:28,320
you push something on the back you move

1095
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:29,520
forward now

1096
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:33,680
why have ufos over all these years

1097
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:36,079
been identified as coming in we said

1098
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,720
with the

1099
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,960
nimitz case above 80 000 feet it was

1100
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,400
actually outer space

1101
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,640
dropping down to 50 feet above the water

1102
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,400
okay so that was the scan volume of the

1103
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:46,320
spy one radar was 80 000 feet that's

1104
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,760
about where it catches it

1105
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,680
these things are coming from above that

1106
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,119
so outer space

1107
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,119
now why have we heard about objects

1108
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,520
being able to do right hand turns

1109
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,280
why have we heard about objects being

1110
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,200
able to drop into the sea without a

1111
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,480
splash

1112
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,079
why have we been able to hear about

1113
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:03,760
these objects and people witness

1114
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,640
these objects hovering stationary

1115
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:07,760
sometimes

1116
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:11,040
almost as if they're floating on water

1117
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,839
the reason is because the technology

1118
00:40:17,950 --> 00:40:14,880
that is used

1119
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:17,960
is a field propulsion system it's a

1120
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,839
non-reactionary system so instead of

1121
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,119
pushing something out the back

1122
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:24,480
to move forward you're using high energy

1123
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,520
to amplify

1124
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,920
a gravity wave distorting because

1125
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,119
gravity is it

1126
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,839
is uh in relation to time and space has

1127
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,119
an effect

1128
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:35,520
so it's almost like making a pocket that

1129
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,319
you fall

1130
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,560
into and this is something that babazar

1131
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,160
said in 1989

1132
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:42,880
and it's it truly is what weaponized my

1133
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:43,680
curiosity

1134
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,319
it's what made me stop being a passive

1135
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,240
consumer of information

1136
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:51,040
and start being an active participant in

1137
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:52,000
trying to understand

1138
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,440
this stuff is this concept so push your

1139
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,359
put a bowling ball on a bed spring

1140
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,760
mattress push your fist down

1141
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:02,240
and that ball fall that ball falls

1142
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:02,960
towards

1143
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:05,200
where you've made the depression so

1144
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:07,280
what's happening with these craft

1145
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,400
they're not pushing somebody out the

1146
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:10,880
back to move forward they're

1147
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:14,400
focusing waves of gravity

1148
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:17,119
in a direction where they want to be

1149
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:17,520
this

1150
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,079
why things can move

1151
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,680
optically like this

1152
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:28,640
they might be but also this might be an

1153
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,160
optical aspect

1154
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,280
of the distortion of time and space

1155
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,599
created by a gravity wave this is

1156
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,880
understood with the intelligence

1157
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,240
communities within the scientific

1158
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,079
communities within the multitude of

1159
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,079
projects in every branch of our military

1160
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:43,520
that studies ufos

1161
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:46,640
actively today which there are

1162
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,839
that this is how the craft work so the

1163
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:52,240
concept right behind me this picture

1164
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:55,040
of the flying saucer that babazar was

1165
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:55,599
able to

1166
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,359
actually walk into check it out right

1167
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,560
is that the way these things maneuver

1168
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,720
is through field propulsion systems

1169
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:06,800
gravity wave amplification i can

1170
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,400
solidly say that take it or leave it

1171
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:13,280
but it's so important because it shows

1172
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:14,000
us

1173
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:16,400
that not only bob was right gravity is a

1174
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,280
wave

1175
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,119
and that it can be amplified like any

1176
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,240
wave and that objects are not exploding

1177
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,720
when they do these 90 degree turns

1178
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,280
either because of some sort of optical

1179
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:29,040
uh time space distortion but mo

1180
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,560
but more likely because their entire way

1181
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:35,200
in which they're propelling is different

1182
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,839
than our

1183
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,839
concept that we understand as far as

1184
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:39,520
reactionary propulsion so i hope that

1185
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,240
makes it

1186
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,240
a little bit clear to people why that's

1187
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,319
important but that's also why

1188
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,800
there was project galileo which was the

1189
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:47,680
project which

1190
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:50,319
for for the propulsion system at site

1191
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,200
four

1192
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:53,520
that bob worked on but there was also

1193
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:54,960
project looking glass

1194
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,000
which looked at temporal distortions by

1195
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:00,560
this amplification gravity application

1196
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,839
system

1197
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,319
there was a project sidekick which is

1198
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:06,960
looking at the weaponization

1199
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,000
of gravity amplification which is

1200
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:12,560
massively powerful so we can understand

1201
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,520
why

1202
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,599
everything's hush about this because

1203
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:16,960
whoever gains

1204
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,079
the ability to replicate this technology

1205
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:21,839
as a nation

1206
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:25,040
they win they win

1207
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,400
it's as simple as that so this

1208
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:30,160
concept of secrecy think about the

1209
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:31,440
atomic bomb this

1210
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,400
concept of cover-up it is real it is

1211
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:35,280
happening

1212
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,319
this is what uh we are guarding is this

1213
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:40,720
idea that we can

1214
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:45,280
take elements out of a propulsion system

1215
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,240
and use them for things like

1216
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,680
weaponization

1217
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,760
that's the reality so i hope i've kind

1218
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,280
of described what

1219
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,760
gravity amplification is or what uh

1220
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,119
gravity distortion is

1221
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,599
in very simple terms compared to a

1222
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:01,040
reactionary propulsion system but it is

1223
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,079
that the crux

1224
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:03,920
and core of what we're talking about

1225
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,160
when we talk about the machines

1226
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:09,680
so does that help i don't know i i

1227
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:13,440
i'd like to add too i had jeremy on

1228
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,960
our uh tv show recently and

1229
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:19,119
my partner is one of the most skeptical

1230
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:20,480
people on the planet

1231
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:23,599
and she dis dismissed bob lazar

1232
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,520
immediately until jeremy brought to us

1233
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:30,160
a video of jeremy showing the gimbal

1234
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:30,640
video

1235
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,800
first time

1236
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,280
and that was a revelatory moment for me

1237
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:38,800
and for my partner

1238
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,280
to see that what's being displayed in

1239
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:43,839
this ufo video from 2015

1240
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:47,280
is eerily similar to exactly how bob

1241
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,160
lazar said

1242
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,880
these craft functioned anti-gravity

1243
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:52,560
pulling instead of pushing

1244
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,599
um we see this in the gimbal video which

1245
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:58,240
just stunned me when jeremy first

1246
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,280
brought that to me

1247
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:02,160
and then my partner after all was said

1248
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:02,880
and done

1249
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:05,280
all the hollywood was over i

1250
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:06,560
asked her straight up

1251
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,839
like do you think this is authentic

1252
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:11,839
do you think bob lazar is who he says he

1253
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,839
is and she said yes

1254
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,520
and i'm not afraid to say that on the

1255
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:17,599
air like that didn't make it in the show

1256
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,680
but she told me straight up she said i

1257
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,920
can't i can't i can't deny it anymore

1258
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,240
so that was a big moment it's really

1259
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,920
hard to dismiss i mean especially once

1260
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:27,839
you know bob and you know kind of

1261
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,880
you know what he's gone through

1262
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,800
personally and you get to actually get

1263
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,160
to that position which which

1264
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,240
most people obviously won't he probably

1265
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,680
wouldn't believe it if it was

1266
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,920
you know for the roles were reversed he

1267
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,319
said however he wouldn't dismiss it

1268
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,000
and we are seeing that we're seeing now

1269
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:44,319
popularly people are talking about how

1270
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:47,839
the the craft will turn belly first

1271
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,880
yeah to move in that direction so this

1272
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:51,680
is obviously

1273
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,800
one form in which these unknown objects

1274
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,800
seem to travel is through this you know

1275
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:58,400
triad of

1276
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,760
gravity amplification but the you you

1277
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:03,200
guys i wish you were in the room for

1278
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,000
this

1279
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:06,400
when commander david fraber and bob

1280
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,280
lazar

1281
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,920
were able finally with george knapp matt

1282
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:11,280
adams and me in the room

1283
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,920
they were finally able to go over

1284
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,800
optically

1285
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,560
and technologically what commander

1286
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,839
fraber was able to

1287
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:20,160
ascertain from the experience and then

1288
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:21,280
talking with

1289
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:25,839
bob lazar about what he witnessed in

1290
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,920
attempting to reverse engineer which is

1291
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,680
completely impossible our material

1292
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,680
science is the number one boundary

1293
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,599
when it comes to uh being able to

1294
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:35,040
replicate this gravity amplification

1295
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,000
systems

1296
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,880
but in that meeting to see them go back

1297
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,599
and forth

1298
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,520
on a scientific level because commander

1299
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,000
faber's an engineer as well i mean he is

1300
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,800
absolutely one of not not just a fighter

1301
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:48,800
pilot he's got brains man

1302
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,079
so the the ability to see them talk

1303
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,640
the ability to see them go over the

1304
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,000
specifications of what

1305
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,640
would be required from energy and power

1306
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:00,640
to the type of propulsion

1307
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:03,040
it was a very powerful meeting and i i

1308
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:04,400
hope one day

1309
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,240
you know the look i like studying this

1310
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,480
it's cool when i can film it

1311
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,040
and show to other people obviously 99.9

1312
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,040
of what i do on a daily basis is not

1313
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,040
filmed and put out for people

1314
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,800
but that would be a meeting that would

1315
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,240
be a meeting for people to see so it's

1316
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,880
cool to see babazar dissect that video

1317
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,559
and it's cool your skeptical friend

1318
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,000
starts understanding

1319
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,960
a little more but this is so much bigger

1320
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,160
you know so anyway i just wanted to

1321
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,839
relate that was a powerful

1322
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,200
meeting that people should pay attention

1323
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,880
to well i was going to say one of for me

1324
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,000
one of the most powerful things about

1325
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,599
your movie about bob

1326
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:38,240
is is outside of the uh like the

1327
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,839
technical revelations of it and the

1328
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:41,920
stories he tells about what he worked on

1329
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:44,480
was the fact that when you watch the

1330
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:45,359
movie

1331
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,599
uh for me it was the first time i'd had

1332
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,040
enough time to sit and

1333
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:52,559
feel like i was with him uh un

1334
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,160
and sort of uh uh unobstructed i guess

1335
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,520
would be one way to put it

1336
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,599
and you you can't escape the idea this

1337
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,200
is a very rational

1338
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,599
extremely intelligent person who has

1339
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:05,040
nothing to gain from saying the things

1340
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:06,079
he's saying

1341
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,760
and that's like a really powerful thing

1342
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,520
to just realize well there's no reason

1343
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:12,319
to not believe him if you get to spend

1344
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,200
you know i

1345
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:15,280
thanks dave for saying that the point of

1346
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,200
the movie was to do two things one was

1347
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:19,599
to uplift the visual medium of ufo

1348
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,079
movies

1349
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,880
because most are crap and i just wanted

1350
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,400
to see something i'd want to watch

1351
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:26,240
but it was to humanize you know it's

1352
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:28,079
it's harder to

1353
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:31,599
violently dismiss somebody that you can

1354
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:32,319
just you know

1355
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,839
you label them crazy because they're

1356
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:34,720
talking about something you don't want

1357
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,839
to deal with

1358
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,760
it's harder to do that when someone is

1359
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:39,599
humanized when you're able to show hey

1360
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,599
this is his dog this is his wife this is

1361
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,680
his mom these are his friends

1362
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,599
what would be his it's like in court

1363
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:47,520
what's motive

1364
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:50,400
the the lies out there that bob has

1365
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,119
somehow

1366
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,160
um benefited in any way

1367
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:57,760
financially in any way they're all

1368
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,480
we have a guide to

1369
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,640
poison people's minds against someone

1370
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:04,000
like you look at what happened to bob

1371
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:05,599
carey in the swift boat back in

1372
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:08,480
by you know the uh campaign you

1373
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:09,040
know

1374
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,119
that you're able to take someone who is

1375
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:12,880
clearly definably

1376
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,599
done something heroic and just tell

1377
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,720
people it wasn't

1378
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:18,319
and people will believe it even though

1379
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:19,520
the facts don't support what they're

1380
00:49:23,549 --> 00:49:20,480
saying

1381
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,559
and why should i yeah why should a

1382
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,119
whistleblower

1383
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,319
be a saint too though so to to jeremy

1384
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,800
giving the humanity obviously bubbles

1385
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,640
are just not a perfect human being like

1386
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:33,760
you or me

1387
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,720
yeah you're perfect that's so cool yeah

1388
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,079
is that what i said

1389
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:40,640
no it just sounded i i love it you seem

1390
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,480
perfect

1391
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,240
i was making a joke no look uh poe

1392
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:46,400
buddies nerfed as i've been told many

1393
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:47,040
times

1394
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:50,960
um but the yeah the the idea that so bob

1395
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,200
does not see himself as a whistleblower

1396
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,040
he came forward with information out of

1397
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,359
fear for his own life

1398
00:50:01,270 --> 00:50:00,160
and for his wife at the time uh that was

1399
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,280
very real stuff

1400
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:04,079
this is not cloak and dagger

1401
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,119
you know this is

1402
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,520
he was being monitored and he allowed

1403
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,280
them to tap his phones when he first got

1404
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,040
the job that's no problem

1405
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:12,960
he was actually told his wife was having

1406
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,240
an affair by

1407
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:16,480
agents he didn't know it was because

1408
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,920
they tapped the stone

1409
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:20,400
george knapp has met one of the people

1410
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,280
that was

1411
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,160
tasked with following him so has bob

1412
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:25,680
they proved it to them

1413
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:29,839
that's an incredible thing so this idea

1414
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:32,960
that he benefited from this

1415
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,880
okay you just don't know bob you just

1416
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,559
don't know the story you just don't know

1417
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,839
what actually happened or you're

1418
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,040
dismissing it because you don't want to

1419
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,200
hear it he has not benefited

1420
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:43,119
this has been heartache it's been

1421
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,559
traumatic i i

1422
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,880
he's ripping off his clark kent outfit

1423
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:49,040
though he stepped forward again

1424
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,000
after 30 years and i am so grateful that

1425
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:54,000
he did that he put a lot of trust in me

1426
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,599
he thought you know he'd just be

1427
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,119
pitchforked again and

1428
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,680
it would destroy his life again and

1429
00:51:04,349 --> 00:51:01,280
we've seen the opposite

1430
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:04,359
now people are because maybe of december

1431
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,359
2017 i don't know that people are

1432
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:09,440
starting to pay attention it would be

1433
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,880
reckless not to do it

1434
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,800
and he doesn't really care if any

1435
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,160
individual

1436
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,839
i mean it's got to take a toll after 30

1437
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,680
years of people talking i mean

1438
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,680
i hate opening twitter these days i'm

1439
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,440
just trying to help people want to learn

1440
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,160
but it feels bad opening it right so i

1441
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:26,240
could only imagine what he went through

1442
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,760
uh he does not see himself as a

1443
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:29,040
whistleblower he did it for

1444
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:30,960
self-preservation but now

1445
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:33,520
at this point in his life he truly feels

1446
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:34,960
not one individual

1447
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,599
but in general it's important people

1448
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:39,119
understand there's science and there's

1449
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,240
technology

1450
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,359
and it is being held back from humanity

1451
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,920
by a military faction because there's

1452
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,440
not just one government

1453
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:50,160
but by a faction and everything that's

1454
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,200
been done to dismiss

1455
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:53,599
and harm him you know he's weathered it

1456
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:54,559
he's he's

1457
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,920
not a whistleblower but he's heroic as a

1458
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:58,720
friend

1459
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:01,440
he's a heroic person so yeah i'm really

1460
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,160
glad that

1461
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:05,200
people are starting to listen and uh

1462
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:06,640
you know people need to judge for

1463
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,280
themselves i'm curious guys

1464
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,480
uh i know uh there's a couple

1465
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,920
media things that have been out there

1466
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:15,920
there's there's the new skinwalker show

1467
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,480
ranch

1468
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:19,359
uh can walk around show and then there

1469
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:20,480
there's also

1470
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,520
uh the idea of without mentioning

1471
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:25,040
anybody who's full you know completely

1472
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:25,760
full of

1473
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,559
but there's this idea about summoning

1474
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:29,839
and uh i wanted to hear

1475
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,960
dave foley i i was in conflict i had

1476
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:34,400
this problem with i'm a nuts and bolts

1477
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:34,960
guy

1478
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:38,230
craft but i've witnessed this summoning

1479
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,950
and it's it's pretty compelling and i

1480
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:42,800
was like i called dave or texted david i

1481
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:44,079
was like man i can't wrap my head around

1482
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,760
this how could machines

1483
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:48,079
be connected to our consciousness and he

1484
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,680
told me something that just like

1485
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:51,119
really allowed me to understand this a

1486
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:52,480
little bit more so would you mind

1487
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:54,160
telling us about that dave

1488
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,359
sure if no one else minds that's uh

1489
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,800
yeah we were talking about that and and

1490
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,400
the thing that it

1491
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,319
made me think of right away was uh

1492
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:04,640
princeton's uh universal consciousness

1493
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,839
project which was a project they set up

1494
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:09,599
uh i forget how long ago about 20 years

1495
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:10,559
ago now i think

1496
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:13,599
um uh well yes it was right before

1497
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:15,920
uh 9 11 that they set it up but they

1498
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,839
started studying whether or not people

1499
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:19,440
paying attention to a machine could have

1500
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:20,880
an effect on the machine

1501
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,960
so they set up random number generators

1502
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,400
and had people to sit in a room with a

1503
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,160
random number generator and think about

1504
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:28,160
the machine

1505
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,760
and what they found was that when

1506
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,200
someone does that

1507
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:34,160
the machine veers away from being random

1508
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,520
and starts producing patterns of numbers

1509
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,920
and they thought that's weird and they

1510
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:41,359
kept doing it and they kept repeating it

1511
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,400
and it kept it was

1512
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,880
repeatable over and over and over again

1513
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:46,079
and then they thought well what happens

1514
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,359
if more people are thinking about

1515
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,720
something so they decided they would set

1516
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,559
up random number generators all around

1517
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,079
the world

1518
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:55,200
um and monitor world events

1519
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,359
and see what happens when a major event

1520
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:59,200
happens that has a lot of people

1521
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:00,480
thinking about it

1522
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:03,440
and right after that 911 happened and

1523
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:05,520
what they found was that the uh

1524
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:08,839
the all of the machines all across the

1525
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:10,960
world at once

1526
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,680
veered away from randomness and started

1527
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:14,960
producing patterns

1528
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:18,319
of numbers um as a response to the

1529
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,640
and so the effect seems to be connected

1530
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:22,400
to the number of people thinking about

1531
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,200
something

1532
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:25,680
another example where it veered was uh

1533
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:27,920
when uh prime minister of canada died

1534
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:28,319
pierre

1535
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:30,800
trudeau and his son now the prime

1536
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:32,160
minister justin trudeau

1537
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:35,440
gave the eulogy um you had 30 million

1538
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,160
canadians

1539
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,119
all listening to this eulogy pretty much

1540
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,799
at the same time

1541
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:43,119
and it was another event where the

1542
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:44,000
randomness

1543
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,520
uh went went off significantly but

1544
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:49,440
specifically in those machines

1545
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,280
in the area of canada

1546
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:55,920
so they found that the consciousness was

1547
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:56,799
having an effect

1548
00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:00,400
on machines so if we're discovering that

1549
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:02,319
now and we have this very primitive

1550
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,240
understanding of

1551
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:06,640
of how consciousness can have an effect

1552
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,599
on things

1553
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:10,079
we have to assume that any technology

1554
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,200
advanced of ours

1555
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:14,000
as as far advanced of uh of ours as

1556
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,720
these ufos obviously have to be

1557
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,400
they must be also really advanced in

1558
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,319
terms of manipulating

1559
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:22,400
uh the connection of consciousness to

1560
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,520
machines

1561
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,440
and to each other and and being able to

1562
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,520
manipulate consciousness

1563
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:29,920
uh so that's why to me when i heard

1564
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,880
about the

1565
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,559
you know these people saying that there

1566
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,559
was a connection to their consciousness

1567
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,079
it seems obvious that there is a

1568
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:38,240
mechanical way to connect to

1569
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,119
consciousness

1570
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,839
that we're already discovering so a few

1571
00:55:46,829 --> 00:55:43,520
thousand years from now we'll actually

1572
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,839
be able to turn it into uh a meaningful

1573
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:48,240
technology and

1574
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,960
it's more than just machines yeah and

1575
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:52,079
it's more than just machines right

1576
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:52,640
machines

1577
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,079
are picking up that connection

1578
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,640
between and consciousness engaging

1579
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,319
connected to each other

1580
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:02,640
right and so i think the bigger picture

1581
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:03,520
is that

1582
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,640
consciousness influences

1583
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,319
physical reality this is not some hippie

1584
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:09,839
this is just

1585
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,799
that our consciousness has a dynamic uh

1586
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:13,680
dance

1587
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:16,160
with what we know to be or understand

1588
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,119
limitedly

1589
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:19,280
what reality is so the idea that

1590
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:20,480
machines can pick that

1591
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:23,520
up and actually have an effect than this

1592
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:25,839
idea that consciousness

1593
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,720
and what we call ufos that there is an

1594
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,160
intimate connection

1595
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:32,799
it kind of mended that wound for me as a

1596
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:34,960
nuts and bolts you know bob lazar ufo

1597
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:35,520
guy

1598
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:40,079
and you know i don't like anything

1599
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,799
spiritual as an explanation of anything

1600
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:45,119
yeah yeah we the whole chakra thing and

1601
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,880
did you reduce forget about it but i'm

1602
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:47,920
just saying

1603
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,319
yeah in general that this is a profound

1604
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:51,920
i started our

1605
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,480
et contact and spirituality session

1606
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,839
earlier

1607
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:58,319
no no not having it not doing it keep

1608
00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:00,400
your crystals to yourself namaste

1609
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,079
over here you're going to stay over

1610
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,440
there but um

1611
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:05,520
because i do but you know yeah like that

1612
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:06,640
that connection that consciousness

1613
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:07,440
connection

1614
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:10,799
is uh yeah it is basically it makes

1615
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,240
sense when you realize that that

1616
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,400
reality itself emerges out of the

1617
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,240
quantum

1618
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,440
phenomenon

1619
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:21,520
and consciousness is also a quantum

1620
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:22,720
phenomena so

1621
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:25,119
they're both existing in the same level

1622
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:26,160
and they're both coming

1623
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:27,520
out of that you know and then everything

1624
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:30,400
we perceive beyond the quantum

1625
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:33,200
is kind of an illusion anyway yeah i i

1626
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,920
recently

1627
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:36,079
um interviewed leslie keane the

1628
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:37,280
investigative journalist

1629
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,559
on her um her book surviving death

1630
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:42,480
about the afterlife and it was really

1631
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,599
interesting because

1632
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:45,440
i went into this thinking i was going to

1633
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:46,720
be having like a

1634
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:49,920
spiritual or religious conversation and

1635
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,680
um that was like the first thing she

1636
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:53,280
said to me was

1637
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:56,079
the word god was not in my book once

1638
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,559
it's like a 350 page book

1639
00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:00,400
and i found that really interesting and

1640
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:02,000
i agree with both of you that

1641
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,280
we are getting closer to

1642
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,520
the science behind consciousness and on

1643
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:08,880
the quantum level

1644
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,359
and that's i i do agree i think it's

1645
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:13,520
going to take a really long time to get

1646
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:14,079
there

1647
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,599
but the idea that consciousness is

1648
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:19,520
part of the afterlife and this is how we

1649
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:21,680
may be able to communicate with those

1650
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,559
whose

1651
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:25,440
consciousness has moved on gone to

1652
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:27,520
another vessel whatever you want to call

1653
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:27,920
it

1654
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:30,079
um yeah why not why can't that be

1655
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:31,119
connected to

1656
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,319
whatever ufos represent i i think it's

1657
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:36,319
fascinating and jeremy you did mention

1658
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:37,599
the whole you know

1659
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:40,799
sort of ce5 thing too um this is a huge

1660
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:41,680
movement right now

1661
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,960
well i didn't always say ce5 but yeah

1662
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:45,920
you know i

1663
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,480
i feel you i think i feel like we were

1664
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:50,480
inched in there but i i feel like

1665
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,599
you're so crazy when all those fails

1666
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:55,920
when nuts and bolts fails like what you

1667
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:57,520
know what are we left with and i think

1668
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:58,640
the quantum level

1669
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:01,119
is has something to do with that well i

1670
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:02,720
mean like i don't believe we have souls

1671
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:03,280
but i

1672
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:04,880
i do believe there's something to the

1673
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:06,640
ghost phenomenon

1674
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:07,839
and when i tell people that you know i'm

1675
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:09,280
an atheist but i believe ghosts are

1676
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:10,400
probably real

1677
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:12,160
they go how can you how can you believe

1678
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,680
in that without believing we have a soul

1679
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,000
and i said like like i i believe the

1680
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,160
phenomenon exists because

1681
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:20,079
we have you know thousands of years of

1682
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,760
anecdotal evidence for it

1683
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,760
you know and i don't think the reason is

1684
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:25,280
thousands of years

1685
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,640
the only reason why things are

1686
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:28,559
paranormal is because they're not

1687
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,400
normalized yet because we haven't

1688
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,640
figured out exactly how they're working

1689
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:34,079
and this is something that

1690
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:35,680
you know i talked a lot with dr edgar

1691
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:38,000
mitchell before he passed away

1692
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:40,160
was able to film with him you know he's

1693
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:41,359
a guy that

1694
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:44,000
when he was coming back from the moon he

1695
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,200
had an epiphany

1696
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,880
and he realized you know his

1697
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:49,520
interconnectivity of his consciousness

1698
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:52,000
with the planet he was coming back to

1699
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,839
and he started the institute of noetic

1700
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:54,960
sciences

1701
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:58,079
so this and i was kind of joking ryan we

1702
01:00:02,230 --> 00:59:59,839
are talking about this idea where

1703
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:02,240
people are believing that their

1704
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:03,440
consciousness

1705
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:06,079
is somehow interacting with these

1706
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:07,599
machines in the sky

1707
01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:11,119
or whatever and uh undoubtedly there's

1708
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:12,839
something to it

1709
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:15,520
undoubtedly and we have to separate

1710
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:18,720
the messenger from the message that's

1711
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:20,079
really important because

1712
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:22,960
the ufo world it does inspire lots of

1713
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:26,839
schizophrenia it inspires a lot of uh

1714
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:30,000
fantasy but that doesn't mean

1715
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,960
that there isn't um real power in

1716
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:34,720
looking into these realms that feel

1717
01:00:38,710 --> 01:00:36,480
uncomfortable i'm personally allergic

1718
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,720
to that kind of high weirdness but i'm

1719
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:40,079
confronted by it

1720
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:44,960
like skinwalker ranch and you guys know

1721
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:47,280
that that george knapp who has been an

1722
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:50,319
amazing mentor to me in in journalism

1723
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:53,440
he jumped into that and he looked at it

1724
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:53,920
and and

1725
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:56,640
the scientists and dr colin kelleher and

1726
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:58,880
eric davis and and nids and jacques

1727
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,839
ballet and hal

1728
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,599
put off and some of the brightest minds

1729
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:03,599
that we have kit green

1730
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,520
all these people they've been looking

1731
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:07,280
into this for quite some time it is an

1732
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:10,720
undeniable fact that the phenomena

1733
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:14,079
which includes ufos that it does

1734
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:17,599
interact almost in a in a playful

1735
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:21,200
manner or a performance manner it does

1736
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:24,319
interact with humanity and with human

1737
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,680
consciousness and you've got some place

1738
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,440
like skinwalker ranch

1739
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:28,960
which is being used as a living

1740
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:30,960
laboratory again boundaries are false we

1741
01:01:34,549 --> 01:01:32,319
know that from corona

1742
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:34,559
but the idea that that you can have a

1743
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:36,400
place and you can study it

1744
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:39,200
so like the show that just came out

1745
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:40,640
millions of people

1746
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:43,200
are watching this show millions of

1747
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:44,000
people

1748
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:47,920
so it is opening that door for us

1749
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:49,760
under the new ownership of skinwalker

1750
01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:52,240
ranch it is opening that door for us

1751
01:01:58,589 --> 01:01:55,359
to have this conversation to face

1752
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:58,599
our the imposition of our you know

1753
01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:00,000
preconceptions

1754
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:03,200
you know i firmly feel consensus

1755
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,880
reality needs to catch up with physical

1756
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:08,160
reality

1757
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:14,480
is wrong it is incomplete

1758
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,799
and so now it's time that we you know we

1759
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:18,240
start looking at this stuff

1760
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,599
in fun ways in entertainment personally

1761
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,920
uh having these conversations and i know

1762
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:25,039
probably like

1763
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:28,400
you all been the crazy uncle or crazy

1764
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,359
aunt and the family

1765
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,200
you know interested in ufos but this

1766
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,039
topic is big

1767
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:35,280
it's it's big because it looks at the

1768
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:36,880
idea of not only

1769
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:39,839
are we alone in the universe but it also

1770
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:42,079
it looks into the concept

1771
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:46,799
of is reality as we understand it

1772
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,920
is it is it like uh dave foley you said

1773
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:51,760
to me today

1774
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:54,640
looking at the screen of your iphone it

1775
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,559
tells you nothing about what's going on

1776
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,559
on the inside of that yeah that's the

1777
01:03:01,510 --> 01:03:00,000
can you tell tell me about that in

1778
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:01,520
a second that's actually guy donald

1779
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:03,520
hoffman who's a cognitive

1780
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:05,839
psychologist but he's putting out this

1781
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:07,839
theory that um

1782
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:11,280
that basically our senses

1783
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:15,200
evolved not to reveal reality to us but

1784
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:18,880
to conceal reality from us um

1785
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:21,839
how do you mean that that it that what

1786
01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:22,400
there are

1787
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:24,319
that are basically our senses we're

1788
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:26,079
creating a user interface

1789
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:29,599
that is understandable and useful

1790
01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:31,440
it is not about knowing what's really

1791
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:33,200
going on like we we look at our

1792
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:34,960
our iphones and we can send emails on

1793
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:36,480
our iphones or we can watch videos on

1794
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,359
our iphones

1795
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:39,440
without having any concept about what is

1796
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,640
going on behind that

1797
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:43,119
that piece of glass that we're staring

1798
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:44,960
at we have no idea what's happening

1799
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:46,079
because and every most of the things

1800
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:47,359
that are happening inside the phone

1801
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:49,359
are happening at a quantum level as well

1802
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:51,359
but uh so he said that

1803
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:54,160
that our senses were basically just set

1804
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:56,000
up not to reveal reality to us but to

1805
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:56,880
filter reality

1806
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:59,359
out so that we can maneuver and survive

1807
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:00,720
we can avoid being

1808
01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:03,359
eaten we can find mates we can find food

1809
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,960
and those were the things that we needed

1810
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,039
census to direct us towards

1811
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:09,280
and that anything that uh that didn't

1812
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:10,880
provide those

1813
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:13,839
uh that sort of uh a filter that user

1814
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:16,079
interface to dealing with reality

1815
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,640
uh would be discarded uh through

1816
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:19,920
evolution because uh

1817
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,599
it wouldn't you know it's like needed

1818
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:23,599
for survival to know the

1819
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:26,319
life yeah whereas if you if some if some

1820
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:28,000
creature did evolve that was able to

1821
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:28,960
perceive

1822
01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:32,400
reality at a quantum level uh it most

1823
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:34,720
likely would get eaten by a lion

1824
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:37,760
and not reproduce and not you know

1825
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:40,799
it would not dominate the species um

1826
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:43,200
so he was saying that that evolution

1827
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,440
weeds out reality

1828
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:47,520
in terms of our senses and i don't fully

1829
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:49,039
understand but it's but his and he

1830
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:50,160
believes that

1831
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:53,359
essentially the the universe is is

1832
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:56,720
is really built up of conscious entities

1833
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:59,200
and uh consciousness the consciousness

1834
01:05:04,390 --> 01:04:59,839
itself

1835
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:04,400
is the baseline reality of the universe

1836
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:08,079
um but that you know but our

1837
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:10,880
our our illusion of reality is nothing

1838
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:12,240
to do with consciousness right

1839
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:15,119
it's very useful yeah it's useful

1840
01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:16,160
related yeah

1841
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:18,160
yeah it said that yeah anything and you

1842
01:05:22,150 --> 01:05:20,240
said he's run like evolutionary models

1843
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:22,160
and anytime he runs a model where uh you

1844
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:24,640
know where he imposes the idea of

1845
01:05:29,910 --> 01:05:28,240
of uh really perceiving reality as

1846
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,920
opposed to having a user interface

1847
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:31,200
that's useful

1848
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:33,359
uh they quickly disappear they quickly

1849
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:34,480
get destroyed yeah

1850
01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:36,319
in in jiu jitsu we had a saying is

1851
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:38,480
called the 90 90 rule right

1852
01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:41,920
you train 90 of the time the stuff that

1853
01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:45,280
works at 90 of the the time and the

1854
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:47,440
techniques that that work the remaining

1855
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:50,559
10 you know maybe you you study those 10

1856
01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:51,359
of the time

1857
01:05:58,710 --> 01:05:55,039
so the idea that our physical tangible

1858
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:58,720
perception of reality is useful

1859
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:01,119
at least 90 of the time then we're going

1860
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,640
to focus on that

1861
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,960
however it's it's the rest of it that if

1862
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:06,640
we have the luxury

1863
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:11,520
about to study to analyze to dig

1864
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:14,559
deep to find out more that's the cutting

1865
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,359
edge

1866
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:18,000
that's where things are going to change

1867
01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,280
yeah and you have to wonder like

1868
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:20,880
hypothetically is that

1869
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:23,039
what this phenomenon if we're going to

1870
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:25,119
talk ufo i'd rather say phenomena i

1871
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:26,160
guess uh

1872
01:06:30,230 --> 01:06:28,880
is that the end goal are they trying to

1873
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:30,240
get us back to that point

1874
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:33,280
of getting to the um you know the other

1875
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:34,240
side of that

1876
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,480
uh filtering mechanism i guess i do

1877
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:38,319
wonder is there an end goal

1878
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,880
i guess yeah i mean who are they i mean

1879
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:42,240
that's something that uh

1880
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,079
foley and i were talking about today

1881
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:46,880
it's like you know these um

1882
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:50,319
occupants or these controllers

1883
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:52,880
of these vehicles which is one small

1884
01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:55,359
part of the phenomena

1885
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:58,160
the ufo topic this part of it that you

1886
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:58,559
know

1887
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,760
how invested are they in humankind

1888
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,760
what are the things that we've witnessed

1889
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:05,280
that they've done we've seen them

1890
01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:08,079
toying with our nuclear weapons but

1891
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:09,520
other than that i mean they're not

1892
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:11,200
coming around and shooting a vaccine of

1893
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:12,480
light for corona

1894
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:15,520
i mean what's really going on and dave i

1895
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,839
mean

1896
01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:17,760
just because i'm greedy dave tell us a

1897
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:19,119
little bit about that dave

1898
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:21,119
i agree with ryan that i think phenomena

1899
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:22,240
is a better term

1900
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:24,799
i think there are some of the phenomena

1901
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:25,359
like i think

1902
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:27,839
the your friend who is involved with

1903
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:28,880
summoning

1904
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,000
the the jim martin the guy that had that

1905
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:34,799
video recently

1906
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:37,200
yeah that seems to be different from the

1907
01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:39,680
the nuts and bolts kind of sightings

1908
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:42,079
that a lot of other people have where it

1909
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,280
doesn't feel like there's

1910
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,599
um any desire on the part of these

1911
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:47,200
people to really connect with us in some

1912
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,599
way

1913
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,960
but these these people that want to seem

1914
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:50,880
to these craft that seem to want to

1915
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:53,119
interact with our consciousness maybe

1916
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:54,640
there is an interest there in

1917
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:57,280
us uh right like the object that was

1918
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:58,000
docking

1919
01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:01,200
with the the uso unidentified submerged

1920
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,960
object when commander fraber came up the

1921
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:04,480
tic tac was

1922
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:07,039
for lack of a better term docking it it

1923
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:08,400
was ignoring

1924
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:11,920
until it noticed

1925
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:15,119
in his own words noticed him and then

1926
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:15,680
came and

1927
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,880
mirrored his exact movements so

1928
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:21,440
it was doing a job it was doing

1929
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:22,400
something else

1930
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:24,319
it wasn't there for him it wasn't a

1931
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:25,600
personal thing

1932
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:28,560
however a lot of the sightings do end up

1933
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:29,279
being

1934
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:32,319
very uniquely personal and i've seen

1935
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:34,480
things like that myself where certain

1936
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:36,239
people can see them other people can't

1937
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,799
until you

1938
01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:38,400
put a camera on them and they see the

1939
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:40,000
the object in the camera and then they

1940
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:41,679
then they can see it with their eyes so

1941
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:43,600
this idea of passivity

1942
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:46,799
this idea that some of these objects

1943
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,199
are doing more than just like mapping or

1944
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:51,199
something that they're engaging people

1945
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,799
is that what you're talking about yeah

1946
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:54,080
well i mean i think you got to look at

1947
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:54,319
it

1948
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:57,440
um if you want to draw parallel that

1949
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:59,839
uh somebody who works for an oil

1950
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:00,880
drilling company

1951
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,359
uh will go into a jungle and find a

1952
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,120
place where there might be oil

1953
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:06,960
and you might not notice any of the

1954
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,159
flora and fauna

1955
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:10,080
in that jungle you might not take any

1956
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,640
time to watch you know leafcutter ants

1957
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:14,960
and marvel at what they do he's just

1958
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:16,880
going to go find oil and leave

1959
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:19,359
right but then you have someone like

1960
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,080
jane goodall

1961
01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:22,080
who will go into the jungle and devote

1962
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:23,600
her whole life to understanding

1963
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:24,319
something

1964
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,239
another creature so perhaps in the ufo

1965
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:31,359
phenomena there are some people whose

1966
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:32,719
job is just to come and

1967
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:35,120
and get oil and other people whose job

1968
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:36,799
is to come and understand what's going

1969
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:37,679
on

1970
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:40,239
different probably different species and

1971
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:42,400
and within different species probably

1972
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:46,000
uh just like us a variety of tasks

1973
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:49,199
that are performed and a variety of

1974
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,719
intent yeah and that you know so that

1975
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,719
you know if you want to find out about

1976
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,480
you know about uh

1977
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:58,400
the ecosystems of the jungle don't ask

1978
01:10:02,630 --> 01:09:59,600
the oil guy

1979
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,640
i i work with experiencers dave and

1980
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:03,679
witnesses that's

1981
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:06,560
that's my i guess approach to ufology

1982
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,280
and

1983
01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:09,520
one case um i'm recalling is a woman in

1984
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:10,560
detroit

1985
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:13,360
who came to me with one of the most

1986
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:14,960
stunning cases i've heard of

1987
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:17,760
in michigan over body water she's a

1988
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:18,800
triangular

1989
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:21,360
ufo uh calls her daughter to come out

1990
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:23,199
she's like 15 years old

1991
01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:24,880
and they're both looking up at this

1992
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:26,320
thing and

1993
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:28,640
the mother said she felt euphoric while

1994
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,520
looking up

1995
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,760
and that it was completely silent and

1996
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:33,360
then she looks over at her 15 year old

1997
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,920
daughter

1998
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:35,440
and she's crouched on the ground

1999
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:36,960
covering her ears and saying

2000
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,800
how unbearably loud the craft is so

2001
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,960
there's an objective reality to the ufo

2002
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,400
phenomenon clearly

2003
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:47,280
um but the subjectivity of it actually

2004
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:48,719
speaks to me more

2005
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:51,760
um the observer having the experience

2006
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:53,920
so i i do find it fascinating that we

2007
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:55,360
can look at it as yes

2008
01:10:59,590 --> 01:10:58,640
nuts and bolts craft um distinct reality

2009
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,600
of a phenomenon

2010
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,600
and then we look at the person having

2011
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:03,760
the experience and how they decide to

2012
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,199
embrace that or reject it

2013
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:07,679
um the mom is like totally into it now

2014
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:09,120
she has tons of sightings

2015
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:11,600
she has high strangeness experiences the

2016
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,320
daughter

2017
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:14,400
she said this i want nothing to do

2018
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:16,000
with it i never want to talk about this

2019
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:16,640
again

2020
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:18,960
um i'm done so i think it's really

2021
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,679
interesting

2022
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:21,840
these people having the experiences navy

2023
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:23,120
pilots included

2024
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:25,840
you know i'm sure one of them went one

2025
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,600
way with it in another one a completely

2026
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,640
different way i think that

2027
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,880
yeah the less trained pilot had a lot of

2028
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:32,000
fear and

2029
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:33,440
it freaked them out and commander frager

2030
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:35,199
said i'm going to go check that out i

2031
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,840
want to see

2032
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,679
who's flying that so yeah exactly

2033
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,280
there's a big difference yeah

2034
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:41,040
there is and that lens you look at the

2035
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,320
experience through i think

2036
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,760
has a lot to do this is the stuff that

2037
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:45,760
donald hoffman talks about in even in

2038
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:47,840
prepping his lectures he talks about

2039
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:50,719
the fact that our our experience of

2040
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,520
reality

2041
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:53,679
at a very fundamental day-to-day level

2042
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:54,880
is subjective

2043
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:56,560
you know that we will you know that we

2044
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:58,719
that's how optical illusions work

2045
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:00,719
right is because our experience of

2046
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:01,840
reality is

2047
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:04,960
uh is subjective and that you can

2048
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,480
you can see things as being different

2049
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:08,640
colors when they aren't different colors

2050
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:10,400
uh depending on the context that you're

2051
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:11,920
seeing them in uh

2052
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:14,560
you know you you have the uh you know is

2053
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:16,080
it a duck or a rabbit

2054
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:18,080
you can only see it one way or another

2055
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:19,760
that optical illusion

2056
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:22,320
because our because reality is

2057
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:23,760
subjective

2058
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,400
inaccurate and so no one can know

2059
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,400
to you know i you know it's almost like

2060
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,000
you know the old saying of uh

2061
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,560
seeing is believing it's closer to

2062
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:38,400
actually believing is seeing

2063
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,480
is the is probably closer to the reality

2064
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:42,000
of how we perceive the world

2065
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:44,239
come out with a certain perspective so

2066
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,679
speaking of the world right now and how

2067
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,280
we perceive it and we've

2068
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,280
talked for over an hour and i can't

2069
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:51,520
believe i'm doing this but i'm gonna

2070
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:55,280
um i'm gonna try to wrap us up with a

2071
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:57,040
i mean we could just keep the stream

2072
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:58,480
going all night and everybody could hang

2073
01:13:00,470 --> 01:13:00,080
out and we could talk about ufos all

2074
01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:00,480
night

2075
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,840
and you guys should keep doing that

2076
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:03,679
after you get off the live chat at home

2077
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:04,880
with your friends like keep

2078
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,480
keep talking about it um what is and i

2079
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:10,640
know you answered this earlier ryan but

2080
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:12,480
you can in the festival but you can

2081
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:14,320
participate again we'll just go around

2082
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,520
we'll start with you ryan

2083
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:18,000
um what are you most looking forward to

2084
01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:19,040
doing

2085
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:21,520
when this stupid quarantine is over

2086
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:22,480
going outside

2087
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:25,120
i mean that's the simplest answer um

2088
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,840
i've been

2089
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:28,080
trapped in my closet of a new york

2090
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:29,120
apartment for

2091
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:31,840
over a month now um and just looking up

2092
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:32,960
i mean

2093
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:34,960
there's mass ufo sightings going on

2094
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,560
during this lockdown which is

2095
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:38,560
incredible you know everyone's home and

2096
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:40,320
everyone's like looking for any excuse

2097
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:41,280
to

2098
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:42,800
just pop their head out the window and

2099
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,800
look at the sky um so i think it's an

2100
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:47,040
exciting time uh like jeremy said

2101
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,400
earlier i think it's gonna be really

2102
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,760
interesting to see

2103
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,600
the new normal that's gonna come out of

2104
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:53,280
this and um

2105
01:13:58,709 --> 01:13:56,400
and what i can do to um

2106
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:58,719
to just keep the ball rolling i mean i

2107
01:14:01,510 --> 01:14:00,719
know the minute i have the opportunity

2108
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:01,520
i'm going

2109
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:05,520
to phoenix to um meet with a zuni elder

2110
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:08,000
and look at the phoenix lights in a

2111
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:08,960
whole new

2112
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,360
way so that's what i'm most excited

2113
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:12,880
about um

2114
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:16,159
and honestly just seeing my family and

2115
01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:19,520
um and just you know living life to the

2116
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:20,560
fullest but

2117
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:23,120
in the meantime i'm digging into a lot

2118
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:24,880
of old ufo books valet

2119
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:27,520
and to look at the stones i never

2120
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:28,080
unturned

2121
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,760
before and you're looking at this

2122
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:31,280
phenomenon in a whole new light you are

2123
01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:32,800
such a hard worker

2124
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:35,120
i've been like reporting on ufos for a

2125
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:35,920
while and

2126
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:37,360
there's just the amount of amazing

2127
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:39,520
content you put out and the frequency is

2128
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:41,199
incredible and you've been

2129
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,960
doing a lot of interviews right now

2130
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:45,040
you're hardly just hanging out at home

2131
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:47,840
so yeah there's very if i did that i'd

2132
01:15:09,110 --> 01:14:48,159
go

2133
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:09,120
like this has been amazing so i hope

2134
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:11,360
when we are allowed to go back out into

2135
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:12,159
society

2136
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:14,000
we still come together and do stuff like

2137
01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:15,760
this because i think that's

2138
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:17,199
a lot of businesses are probably going

2139
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,880
to go that way too they're going to look

2140
01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:20,480
at their business model and be like

2141
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,640
why the hell are we renting a building

2142
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:24,480
every month to put these people in like

2143
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:25,600
let's just do this

2144
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:27,600
from home so everything is going to

2145
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,000
change after this and um

2146
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:32,400
yeah i'm it's disappointing that it took

2147
01:16:11,669 --> 01:15:33,520
a

2148
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:11,679
new content

2149
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:14,239
so really i think rather than thinking

2150
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,159
about what's happening tomorrow

2151
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,199
right now spending time with friends and

2152
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:21,600
family and doing the best we can

2153
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:24,800
and germs are real this is real this is

2154
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,640
not some big conspiracy

2155
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:28,640
this is happening and we all are

2156
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:30,640
realizing our boundaries and borders

2157
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:33,600
are fake and that we have to work

2158
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,480
together

2159
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,800
in order to stay healthy and find a way

2160
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:37,920
to live

2161
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:40,960
where you know we can gain all of those

2162
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:42,159
things from one another

2163
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,480
information hugs you know

2164
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,480
but we have to do it in a way where we

2165
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,159
think about one another

2166
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:52,560
i see these protests people say it's a

2167
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:53,920
big conspiracy because you

2168
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,920
imagine my email mailbox every morning

2169
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:57,600
is just filled with garbage i mean

2170
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:00,719
thousands of messages of garbage

2171
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,640
and this image came to me whereas like

2172
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,400
all these protesters

2173
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:06,480
our civil liberties our rights all this

2174
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:07,600
stuff and then

2175
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:11,199
one one medical worker who you know

2176
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:12,400
is gonna have to deal with all these

2177
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:15,040
people who are shoulder to shoulder

2178
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:18,239
selfishly selfishly going outside

2179
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:21,920
and trying to say they're pissed

2180
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:24,719
right now is the time for us to be

2181
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,239
introspective

2182
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:28,880
to to show love and to to to be there

2183
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:30,560
for people that need us

2184
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:33,199
and to kind of help everybody out and

2185
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:34,960
stop thinking just about ourselves so

2186
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:37,040
i'm looking forward obviously to filming

2187
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,239
more interviews

2188
01:17:42,310 --> 01:17:40,480
to putting out more footage but the

2189
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:42,320
number one thing which i'm most excited

2190
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:42,880
about

2191
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:45,280
is playing with this laser gun from bob

2192
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:45,920
lazar

2193
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:47,679
because let me tell you something this

2194
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:49,890
is this is a serious laser gun

2195
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:51,440
[Laughter]

2196
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:53,360
so what did you just set on fire in your

2197
01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:55,360
house i know just burned a little bit of

2198
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,159
the door

2199
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:58,640
it's it's it's not a toy but anyway i'm

2200
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:00,239
just joking around but look i'm

2201
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:03,040
i'm really grateful you know jane you

2202
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:04,560
you put together something really cool

2203
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:05,679
for people

2204
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,600
um this is something that i think you

2205
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,600
could do more regularly i know it takes

2206
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,199
a lot of time and effort

2207
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:13,040
uh i i really appreciate you all being

2208
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:14,960
here and and ryan as well

2209
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,719
look we're fans of your work man you

2210
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,400
know you are a hard worker

2211
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:20,880
both of you and so it's it's so cool to

2212
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:22,560
see everybody coming at this

2213
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:25,120
from from a good place and a place of

2214
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:27,040
wanted to to get knowledge

2215
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:29,520
and i'm grateful for dave foley he's got

2216
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:31,120
a loud voice

2217
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:34,239
and you know yeah well who isn't

2218
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,760
grateful for dave foley we're gonna

2219
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:37,280
laser beam them

2220
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:39,040
but uh you know just the fact that

2221
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:40,400
you're willing to talk about this with

2222
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,640
us

2223
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:43,199
knuckleheads i really appreciate it um

2224
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:44,719
but yeah that's that's kind of it i

2225
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,920
think that everybody should just push

2226
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:47,440
the pause a little bit

2227
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:49,280
and dive into the things they're

2228
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:52,000
passionate about and take care of the

2229
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:54,560
true priorities you know family friends

2230
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,400
and health and that kind of thing

2231
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,040
so that's what's up for me is let's see

2232
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:01,199
where this goes but we're in it together

2233
01:19:05,669 --> 01:19:04,159
how about you dave uh well let's see

2234
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:05,679
well one thing i would like to get back

2235
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:06,960
to learning more about

2236
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:08,400
all of these subjects that we've been

2237
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:11,040
talking about today um

2238
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:12,480
on a professional level i'm gonna have

2239
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to get back to work on the uh kids in

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the hall

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uh tv series that we're we're in the

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middle of

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writing when this all started and uh but

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my main thing is i'm looking forward to

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01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:23,760
getting back outside and and licking

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strangers

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because it's something i used to really

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enjoy you'd be surprised how different

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uh strangers taste

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[Laughter]

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01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:33,360
not gonna dive into that one foley

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01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:40,550
he's gonna go we're gonna go find foley

2253
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:42,400
going around and smelling strangers the

2254
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:44,080
second it's legal to do it again oh not

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smelling them licking them

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01:19:50,790 --> 01:19:48,480
licking them i'm not i'm not

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01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,800
a dog i couldn't think of a better way

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01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:52,640
to end this then

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01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:55,520
that was perfect yeah let's just thank

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thank you everybody for joining in for

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live chatting sorry if we didn't get to

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01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,239
your questions

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01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:02,640
um but i know all these folks are out

2264
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:03,679
there on social

2265
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,360
so go ask them there go buy something

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01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:10,080
online if you can from some ufo alien

2267
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:12,960
inspired go listen to ryan's podcast go

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01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:15,679
watch jeremy's movie go check out kids

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in the hall when it comes out

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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somewhere in the skies is produced by

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third kind productions

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in association with the entertainment